1950s tungsten train lighting
This was taken on the Llangollen heritage railway and is a steam hauled service in this case. Here we have the older tungsten 24v, 60w main  lights that are fully enclosed with glass diffusers and sometimes referred to as flying saucer lights! They are seen here running just before a tunnel and are only fired up for the tunnel. Note also another light over the between the luggage racks over the window which lights the table but non of these had lamps. It was pretty dull with only these main lights!   There is a battery pack under the carriage which is recharged by some kind of dynamo or alternator as the train moves. These are lovely carriages, loads of room with deep comfy seats all aligned to a window unlike modern trains that all seem to be about getting as many people as possible into a space.

1950s tungsten train lighting

This was taken on the Llangollen heritage railway and is a steam hauled service in this case. Here we have the older tungsten 24v, 60w main lights that are fully enclosed with glass diffusers and sometimes referred to as flying saucer lights! They are seen here running just before a tunnel and are only fired up for the tunnel. Note also another light over the between the luggage racks over the window which lights the table but non of these had lamps. It was pretty dull with only these main lights! There is a battery pack under the carriage which is recharged by some kind of dynamo or alternator as the train moves. These are lovely carriages, loads of room with deep comfy seats all aligned to a window unlike modern trains that all seem to be about getting as many people as possible into a space.

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Kev   [16 Apr, 2017 at 09:29 PM]
Wonder why they all had the lamps removed!??
RobTDCI   [16 Apr, 2017 at 09:42 PM]
It may be to reduce the current draw on the battery as being a heritage railway the trains don't run that fast or that long. I think I once read somewhere that they have a problem with keeping the batteries charged.
Kev   [16 Apr, 2017 at 10:48 PM]
They could charge them when the trains aren't running? But yeh interesting I do get that!
Danny   [16 Apr, 2017 at 11:23 PM]
Fascinating old lights makes me wonder whats hidden away at the depot or the place these are stored?!
RobTDCI   [17 Apr, 2017 at 11:14 AM]
One of the great things about this kind of preservation is that along with the trains and the stations, a whole lot of other technology is being preserved as part of that, including the lighting!
Electric   [17 Apr, 2017 at 03:04 PM]
Talking as somebody who maintains the lighting on Electric Heritage Railway trains, there are at least three reasons the lamps may have been removed:
Electric   [17 Apr, 2017 at 03:06 PM]
One is that the lamps have been nicked. It really does happen with the BR bulbs, the most common ones being the lamps in the toilets.
Electric   [17 Apr, 2017 at 03:09 PM]
Two is that the wiring is shot. The older rubber cabling can get very hot in the metal conduit and steel roofspace. In one coach at our museum, the lights start to flicker on hot days. Thumping the panelling usually solves this.
Electric   [17 Apr, 2017 at 03:19 PM]
Three is that the battery banks are shot and they are trying not to strain them. We often have to swap bad cells between running and mothballed vehicles.

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